Offbeat Magazine's Michael Dominici interviewed Ben for the Jazz Fest '04
edition.
FEST FOCUS: PANORAMA JAZZ BAND (Lagniappe Stage, 2:55pm Sunday May 2nd)
MD -
The Panorama Jazz Band play a wide spectrum of music with enthusiasm, intelligence,
and wit. How did you first become interested and inspired to play?
BS - It's nice
to be asked about myself and, of course I can't speak for every individual
in the Panorama. I'm glad you feel the spirit and intelligence of this collection
of musicians. I have the best group of people you could ever want to work
with. The beautiful character of our music is due to the people who play
it. I've heard other people play similar repertoire and it leaves me cold.
I've always responded to rhythm and melody in a physical, sexual, spiritual
way that I couldn't deny. Maybe this is what it's like to be gay (minus
the oppression): "Wow, this is who I am. Can't change it, better go with
it..." My first big musical epiphany happened at age 5 in my hometown, Annapolis,
Maryland which has a very strong African presence going back to the earliest
days of the slave trade. There was a parade (for 4th of July or Memorial
Day or something) and the Annapolis Drum and Bugle Corps came down the street,
a Black brass and percussion outfit. I don't remember any of the specifics,
what kind of music they were playing (I don't think it was anything Caribbean
like what goes on here) I just remember the power and the thrill of it and
thinking, "I have to be part of that sound!" I had music in school but got
into modern dance and choreography in high-school. Learned a lot about how
to perform, how to present material to an audience, how to reach into yourself.
I was able to get back to that feeling-level where you know what you want
and nothing gets in your way. I went to college for dance and that was where
I got reconnected to music. It was there (during the New Wave phase of pop
music - Devo, the Talking Heads, Blondie et al) that I hit on to one of
my major goals in life: to make music for people to party and dance to without
electricity. Just good ol' people power. Started taking clarinet lessons
and majored in music composition.
MD -
Why the clarinet?
BS - I found
it was the instrument I kept wanting to write for. Just loved the tone.
At some point at school, a friend and I smoked a joint, he put on a Preservation
Hall Jazz Band record and I heard Willie Humphrey play "Mood Indigo" with
that furry, Albert system tone of his. I thought, "I can do that." I'd been
playing the recorder for 10 or 12 years at that point, so I had a lot of
confidence. But clarinet was harder than I expected.
MD -
Who are some of your favorite clarinetists and what is it about their approach
that speaks to you musically and otherwise?
BS - So many.
After the Willie Humphrey experience, there was a long period where I listened
exclusively to big band music, primarily Goodman and Ellington with all
his great clarinetists, Barney Bigard, Russel Procope, Jimmy Hamilton and
Johnny Hodges on alto and soprano sax. (The guy that turned me onto Hodges,
a calypso singer in New York named Johnny Barracuda, described Hodges tone
like "whipped cream on top of jelly.") I don't cry very often, but under
the right circumstances, Hodges' reading of "Passion Flower" will break
through all my psychic defenses. But all those great clarinetists - Bechet,
Johnny Dodds - it was just their tone, really, that grabbed me. And all
the energy, humor and brilliance that they put through it. The Smithsonian
puts on a big festival every 4th of July on The Mall in DC and I went down
one year. I'm walking around and I hear this clarinet riding out over top
of a brass band. I'm thinking, "that's IT!" That was when I met Michael
White for the first time. We talked. That was in 1985 and I'd been playing
clarinet for a year and a half. I came to Jazz Fest in '87 and '88 then
ran home, got my stuff and moved here with 100 bucks in my pocket. Michael
and I have been close ever since. Later I discovered Alexandre Stelio and
the other great Creole clarinetists from Martinique. We play a lot of their
music. And the klezmer clarinetists, Naftule Brandwein and Dave Tarras.
Both those styles opened up whole new ranges of expression.
MD -
On one hand, one gets the impression that you simply like playing a variety
of styles from various cultures that share a common musical thread. But,
on a deeper level your music embraces a universal perspective and you bring
a level of worldly sophistication and freshness to traditional jazz that
seems to scream "It's all connected, we're all connected!" Is there a more
spiritual purposefulness at play here as well?
BS - I've witnessed
old Black ladies get off on the klezmer and old Jewish ladies hopping around
to the Caribbean music we play. There's definitely an intention to bring
people together and an attempt to show the Unity in human Diversity. There
are clarinets all over the world. The Martinique bands and the klezmer bands
both used a clarinet and trombone front-line. You have banjos and accordions
in both styles. Our accordionist, Patrick Farrell, has been adapting the
accordion to New Orleans style jazz. When people come in and hear us at
the Seaport on Bourbon Street, they don't know what we're playing, but they
dig it! They say, "what do you call that style of music?" And I tell them,
"Well, actually it's several styles." But the fact that you have this one
band playing these different styles, pulls them all together in folks' minds.
MD -
Can music save the world?
BS - Well...
Somebody needs to. That's a tough question, something I still struggle with.
When I was in college and was just starting to dedicate myself to music
as my life's work, Ronald Reagan was president and we all expected to look
up one afternoon and see a series of mushroom clouds on the horizon. So
the thought was "here I am dancing through the meadow with my flute while
greedy, self-righteous madmen plot the end of everything good in the world."
Recently I saw a film about what globalization is doing in places like Argentina
and Chiapas, the havoc that American-style consumerism is wreaking on the
natural environment and indigenous people all over. What am I doing about
it? I haven't totally answered that question. But a lot of people sit around
in despair asking themselves, "what can I do." We feel isolated and powerless.
Music gives me courage and strength. Music gets past all the words to something
authentic and positive we all share. Without it we'd be in worse shape than
we are now. As a white, middle-class American, I feel an extra responsibility
to represent something good and authentic in the world - the joy of being
alive.
MD -
Tell us about your background.
BS - White,
middle-class all-American male. English, Swedish, Dutch, Welsh, German.
I was raised as a Quaker and attend the meeting here in New Orleans.
I have Quaker ancestors behind 3 of my 4 grandparents (the fourth one
became convinced as an old lady...) Grew up in Maryland along the Chesapeake
Bay (where people steam their crabs instead of boiling them, by the
way....) We used to go down the end of our street and hang a chicken
neck in the creek. You could pull up blue crabs all day long.
MD
- What attracts you about New Orleans?
BS - Not
boiled crabs... New Orleans is a place where people dance in the streets
on a regular basis. It's a good antedote to some of the inhuman aspects
of my cultural heritage. Like racism, greed, competition...
MD -
What do you feel that The Panorama Jazz Band brings to the table?
BS - We're
all immigrants here. But of all the people who leave their homes, very few
of them come to New Orleans. New Orleans attracts the few, the proud, the
rhythmic... We're a hard working band. People hear us on Bourbon St. and
say, "this is what we were looking for!" It's not because we play that much
actual New Orleans music, but because we play good-time party music that
is not all hopped up on electricity. Human energy. We swing. We have this
new brass band, The Panorama Brass Band, and we did a lot of Mardi Gras
parades this year playing jazz, klezmer and everything else. People love
it!
MD -
You have had the opportunity to play in a variety of places and settings.
How does that affect the way you perform and what are some of the most interesting,
exciting, and most unexpected moments you've had?
BS - The biggest
one for me is weddings. We do a lot of weddings. And everybody is in a good
mood, ready to party. For the families, it's a really big moment in everybody's
life and I love that we get to be part of that. Again, it's one of those
authentic human situations. I love the moment in a Jewish wedding when they
put the bride and groom up in the chairs and carry them around, everybody's
dancing the hora in a big circle. That's a really high energy moment. And
the band KEEPS playing, you think your chops are going to give out, but
you CAN'T stop. So you stay with it and something else kicks in. Mardi Gras
parades are like that for me, too. After you hit that wall of exhaustion
(half-way through your fourth parade in three days, for example) you just
give it up to the Great Spirit and keep going.
MD -
What are some of your favorite places that you have traveled to? How have
these experiences influenced you musically and otherwise?
BS - I've been
to Europe a few times with a local dance company, Komenka, who do a whole
Louisiana program. So you're switching from jazz to Cajun, to Mardi Gras...
We went to France several times and played these little folk festivals in
small towns. The best thing is always meeting musicians and dancers from
all over the world, Latin America, Africa, Eastern-Europe, China, Malaysia.
One thing that really surprised and affected me was the fact that, because
we were American, we were automatically superstars to everybody. There was
a group from Albania at one of these things and we could communicate a little
in Italian. They would just follow us around smiling! It was a hell of a
thing! And see, people in other parts of the world can not understand what
it is to swing. There was a big jam session and everybody was playing the
Bolivian folks song, "El Condor Pasa" (the melody that Paul Simon made into,
"I'd rather be a hammer than a nail...") So, I took my turn at the mic and
started doing a little run of the mill syncopation like any New Orleans
jazzer would do. The place FELL OUT! We have something very special here
that people in other parts of the world go nuts for! But on the other hand,
we went to a little Gypsy festival in the very north of Hungary one year.
They bussed us out to a little, dirt-poor village way the hell out there
in the Carpathian basin. We're playing for a small crowd of Gypsies in the
middle of a soccer field. In between dance numbers, we'd do a musical selection
so the dancers could change costumes. So, we're half-way into "The St. Phillip
Street Breakdown," a George Lewis number, and I feel something wet land
on my right hand while I'm playing my solo. I look up and this tough motherfucker
in the back row with his posse is sneering at me. Then he spits on me again
and it lands on my shirt. So I stop playing and go for the guy. Lucky for
me, the other cats in the band, Tony Green, Patrick Mackey, Ronnie Magri
and Steve Calandra go, "Be cool, Ben, be cool." Them boys would have ripped
me apart!
MD -
In the grand scheme of things how important is Sidney Bechet's legacy and
do you wish more was done in New Orleans to honor the great musical legacies
of Bechet, Jelly Roll Morton, Professor Longhair and others that made significant
contributions to our rich musical culture?
BS - In general,
people dig music, but they don't really understand it. So people like Fess
and Jellyroll are ignored by the general public and Milli Vanilli are big
stars. And Bechet has to move to France. I think 99% of people hear music
with their eyes. And that suits "Big Music," Sony and AOL Time Warner, just
fine. You can lead a horse to water - and we should - but it will usually
be missed by the mass consumer culture. The people who are ripe for what
New Orleans offers will eventually find their way here. Some of us never
leave!
MD -
What's on the immediate and long term horizon for Ben Schenck and The Panorama
Jazz Band?
BS - More weddings.
That's top priority to us. The brass band just finished tracking a new CD
that should be out in a few months. I'd like to get more festivals like
the jazz fest and play in Europe with this group. And we're all really dying
to get to Martinique. It's all in how you define success. We're not interested
in living on the road - we got families. We want to make a living playing
music that we love and get the chance to connect to different kinds of people.
New Orleans allows us to do that.